Comments on: Designing Flash Pages for Google http://www.visible-form.com/blog/designing-flash-pages-for-google/ Rich Rodecker's blog on flash, flex, actionscript, javascript, and php, with a dash of randomness Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:24:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: rich http://www.visible-form.com/blog/designing-flash-pages-for-google/comment-page-1/#comment-401 rich Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:32:17 +0000 http://www.visible-form.com/blog/designing-flash-pages-for-google/#comment-401 oh, and that last link has the part about word from google about serving up the html instead of flash. oh, and that last link has the part about word from google about serving up the html instead of flash.

]]> By: rich http://www.visible-form.com/blog/designing-flash-pages-for-google/comment-page-1/#comment-400 rich Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:28:43 +0000 http://www.visible-form.com/blog/designing-flash-pages-for-google/#comment-400 i dont think so...it seems to me that google is pretty smart when it comes to trying to figure out when your really trying to cheat the system. there's more about using xhtml/xml with flash here: http://www.jessewarden.com/archives/2005/04/how_to_have_goo.html i dont think so…it seems to me that google is pretty smart when it comes to trying to figure out when your really trying to cheat the system.

there’s more about using xhtml/xml with flash here:
http://www.jessewarden.com/archives/2005/04/how_to_have_goo.html

]]> By: cosmin http://www.visible-form.com/blog/designing-flash-pages-for-google/comment-page-1/#comment-399 cosmin Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:16:29 +0000 http://www.visible-form.com/blog/designing-flash-pages-for-google/#comment-399 In one project I recently did I used the xhtml pages to feed the flash template. I had to resort to CDATA tags in order to preserve some formatting. Do you think that this is a negative aspect from google pow? In one project I recently did I used the xhtml pages to feed the flash template. I had to resort to CDATA tags in order to preserve some formatting. Do you think that this is a negative aspect from google pow?

]]> By: rich http://www.visible-form.com/blog/designing-flash-pages-for-google/comment-page-1/#comment-390 rich Sun, 12 Mar 2006 00:02:02 +0000 http://www.visible-form.com/blog/designing-flash-pages-for-google/#comment-390 yeah, you're right I should have mentioned FlashObject too, that is another good method. However, Google doesn't frown on that sort of thing. What they frown in is detecting for the google bot and serving up different content to their bot than what a normal browser user would see...for instance, if a porn site is going to detect for a bot and serve up some harmless content about puppies when it finds the googlebot, that's no good. In my case, the content would be the same, just formatted differently. I used to have a link on my blog (before I lost my entire blog db) that had a link to official word from google that that is the preferred way of getting flash content visible to the search engine. If i can find it i will repost it. yeah, you’re right I should have mentioned FlashObject too, that is another good method.

However, Google doesn’t frown on that sort of thing. What they frown in is detecting for the google bot and serving up different content to their bot than what a normal browser user would see…for instance, if a porn site is going to detect for a bot and serve up some harmless content about puppies when it finds the googlebot, that’s no good. In my case, the content would be the same, just formatted differently. I used to have a link on my blog (before I lost my entire blog db) that had a link to official word from google that that is the preferred way of getting flash content visible to the search engine. If i can find it i will repost it.

]]> By: Geoff http://www.visible-form.com/blog/designing-flash-pages-for-google/comment-page-1/#comment-389 Geoff Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:51:24 +0000 http://www.visible-form.com/blog/designing-flash-pages-for-google/#comment-389 I'm not a fan of detecting Google/search bots and serving different content. They usually frown on this type of thing (as I'm sure you heard about BMW germany getting black listed from Google because they were doing just that). It's better to use something like <a href="http://blog.deconcept.com/flashobject/" rel="nofollow">FlashObject</a> to embed your Flash movies, and include the alternate content for that page 'under' the flash movie, so the user never sees it, but google will not trigger the javascript so it will index all the alternate content. Another bonus to this method is that you can style your alternate content, so if the user doesn't have Flash, they can still access all the info. I’m not a fan of detecting Google/search bots and serving different content. They usually frown on this type of thing (as I’m sure you heard about BMW germany getting black listed from Google because they were doing just that).

It’s better to use something like FlashObject to embed your Flash movies, and include the alternate content for that page ‘under’ the flash movie, so the user never sees it, but google will not trigger the javascript so it will index all the alternate content.

Another bonus to this method is that you can style your alternate content, so if the user doesn’t have Flash, they can still access all the info.

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